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22 June 2009 @ 08:56 pm
This is driving me freaking NUTS!  
Can someone tell me if this is just fanon or at least point out where it says in canon that Sha're is the one that named Shifu.

I could have sworn I've seen Kasuf tell Daniel that Sha're had told him this when she was pregnant. I've gone through several sites and transcripts and I can't find squat.

(Yes, this is regarding the Absolute Power AU I said I wasn't going to write, dangit.)
 
 
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sg_bettysg_betty on June 23rd, 2009 01:38 am (UTC)
Pretty sure he just arrives and announces that his name is Shifu:


DANIEL
Shifu says he came to Abydos to learn
more about his mother.


O'NEILL
Shi-fu?


DANIEL
His name. It means light.


CARTER
I think we should get Doctor Fraiser
to have a look at him. If he's been
altered to grow quickly, it could still
be happening.


Edited at 2009-06-23 01:38 am (UTC)
stlscapestlscape on June 23rd, 2009 01:50 am (UTC)
When he's in the Oriental-looking place/temple, when the team (or just Daniel?) first meets him (NOT at the SGC), I think he says his mother named him - but I'm not staking my life on this.

I don't have a clue as to which season it might have been, because I saw SG1 all out of order. This episode also has one or more of the glowy light thingies (Ascended Beings?)

Kaz: Black&White (John)kazbaby on June 23rd, 2009 01:58 am (UTC)
That'd be Maternal Instinct. I started watching the episode over on Hulu this morning but had to stop in order to actually sleep. Thanks!
scrollgirl: sg-1 btvs tara/shifu x-over scrollgirlscrollgirl on June 23rd, 2009 02:09 am (UTC)
Sorry, in "Maternal Instinct" (the S3 ep with the temple on Kheb), Shifu is still a baby and doesn't actually say anything ;)

The monk who's there doesn't make any mention of the child's name, and in fact we don't know that Shifu has a name yet. We first hear it in the S4 ep "Absolute Power".

Considering "shifu" is a Chinese word, I think we're safe to assume Oma named him, not Sha're.
stlscapestlscape on June 23rd, 2009 02:25 am (UTC)
Good thing I didn't stake my life on it, then. Thanks for the correction.

Sorry, kaz.
Kaz: Alt Cameronkazbaby on June 23rd, 2009 01:52 am (UTC)
I know. Like I said above I went through the transcripts for the episodes dealing with Shifu. I've also gone through Gateworld and Arduinna's handbook. Asking on here was my last resort.
sg_bettysg_betty on June 23rd, 2009 02:20 am (UTC)
I just went through all the transcripts again, as well, and checked a couple of other places. Shifu's name isn't mentioned before Absolute Power, and there's no mention of his name except at the beginning. I'm afraid the name thing is fanon--especially since it would be awfully coincidental if Sha're just happened to name the future glowy light being 'Light'...

Edited at 2009-06-23 02:28 am (UTC)
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sg_bettysg_betty on June 23rd, 2009 02:26 pm (UTC)
Well, doesn't that just make Shifu a little creepier! I'm afraid that means Shifu's name must be in some unknown language other than Chinese, though, because in canon, his name has to mean light. ;)
Fig Newton: canon vs. fanonsg_fignewton on June 23rd, 2009 05:52 am (UTC)
Yep, fanon. :)

Daniel does say that Shifu means "light" but doesn't mention in which language. Might've been Abydonian, yes, but no confirmation in any way.

Shifu is "the boy" or "the child" or "the harcesis" until Absolute Power, after which he is never mentioned again. Pity, that, because I've always wondered if Oma's preoccupation with Anubis might've affected him somehow. And it would've been nice to see him in Full Circle and/or Threads. A mention, even!

It's not as if Sha're knew she was having a boy.... hmmm. Now there's an AU for you: Sha're has a girl and Apophis takes her for a host. Erm.
Kaz: Archeologist (Daniel)kazbaby on June 23rd, 2009 05:57 am (UTC)
Thanks!

Whoever wrote that so that I got the scene stuck so clearly in my head did a damn good job. But at least renaming him can now be guilt-free. :D

And yes, they really should have mentioned him because it would have been cool to find out if Daniel met up with him while ascended.

That's a really wicked idea for an AU. :D