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24 November 2008 @ 04:21 am
I should really be in bed...  
but a curiosity popped in my head and I figured I'd ask it and then scoot my butt back under the covers.

I guess this is sort of spawned from all of the Jack/Daniel fic I've been reading lately and the different ways that writers portray Jack O'Neill. So I'm curious about your Jack.

I'm actually still nailing down my Jack though that is simply because I've had a hard time 'getting' him, at least I think. (I'd started watching the series for RDA because of MacGyver but it was Daniel that held my attention and pretty much blinding me to everyone else until season nine. Plus, I didn't really pay attention to the character stuff in series tv back when it first began.)

It's getting easier, especially after vidding him and Daniel, thankfully for me to hear his voice when I come across a story that's well written but the aspects of him (little things really) at those times are hard to really pinpoint for me. I'm still pretty much at the grabby hands stage when I find that I can hear him clearly and distinctly. (and kudos to you writers that manage to do that. ♥)

So, please, tell me about your Jack O'Neill. Why do you love, hate, or ship him. What makes you want to ship him to whatever your favored pairing happens to be?

(please be courteous to others when you answer. i don't want to have to smack folks for being rude. this is an equal opportunity character thread.)
moodswing: tiredtired
Liza: SG1lizamanynames on November 24th, 2008 07:13 am (UTC)
"My" Jack O'Neil is condescending, insecure, and doesn't know when a joke isn't funny anymore. He has unrequited feelings for someone on his team, and it makes him act like a spaz when around them, because when he's on Atlantis, he's more tolerable.

This is my opinion, I'm not interested in changing it. (I know you know that, Kaz, but I'm heading off anybody else off at the pass.)
Jenn: sg1 - jack- war is oversurreallis on November 24th, 2008 01:31 pm (UTC)
Hmm. The Jack I see is wounded, smarter than he likes to let on if only because he just doesn't care about all that brainfuzz, plus he knows how to delegate. He's very protective of his emotions, except anger (or humor) which is what he lets out whenever ANY other emotion threatens to overwhelm him. He's an odd contrast, because of all the team, he often wears his heart on his sleeve. He just doesn't quite realize it. He's loyal to a fault, and once you earn his trust you become one of his circle, and that's worth pretty much anything he has to give. He's an excellent strategist.

On the negative side, he can be very irritating. He can be so down on himself that he'll let you walk away rather than fight for you, if he believes you'd be better off. REGARDLESS of your personal feelings. After 10 years of wormhole theory you'd think he'd have retained SOME of the damn finer points. He'd be a really difficult man to live with on a day-to-day basis.

Ship-wise, I like to pair him with Sam, because I love that dynamic. Her up-in-her-head brilliance with his down-to-earth protectiveness. They don't always even know where the other is coming from, and I like that. Plus, there's this weird power differential there. He's her superior officer, but in many ways she holds the upper hand on him. He's good when it comes to military matters, but when it becomes personal she can often sway him and he almost submits...

I also like the *idea* of Jack/Cam, because there could be a very mentor/student/rival thing going on. Plus, they're both so hot.
Synecdochicsynecdochic on November 24th, 2008 04:48 pm (UTC)
My Jack is a tired old soldier who's been betrayed too many times by too many people who should have had his back, and it scarred him pretty badly for a while, but it never knocked him off his game. He uses the humor and the sarcasm as a shield and a deflection, and he plays dumb even though he knows it drives the people around him batshit insane because for years and years in the past, every time he's shown his smarts (outside of the tactical/command kind of smarts, I mean), the people who signed his orders would seize upon it and make him use it -- in ways he usually found wrenching. His career is one long unbroken line of terrible necessity, where someone had to do these nasty things and Jack was the guy on the ground at the time, and he loves his country a hell of a damn lot and he knows that these things had to be done, and he even knows that he's good at them, but that doesn't mean he likes it.

He's the kind of man who will kill you with his bare hands if he has to -- if you're a threat to him, his people, his country, or the greater good -- but he'll also bring a puppy to a little girl, and he knows it's a contradiction, and he doesn't like it, but he doesn't angst (too much) over it; he doesn't have the kind of angsty emo "my hands will never be clean again" sort of attitude on his days in black ops so much as a quiet regret that anyone has to do that. He doesn't see himself as a hero, or even (usually) as a good man, but he doesn't dwell on it, either. He just does what needs to be done and then keeps going.

He holds grudges -- nurtures and cherishes grudges -- until the end of time, and once you are on his shit list, it takes a miracle to get you off it. Conversely, once you are his people, you are his people through and through. He would rather chew off his own arm than have a conversation about his feelings. (He would rather chew off his own arm than examine his own feelings.)

He is the best superior officer most of these kids at the SGC have ever had, because he pays attention, and he knows all the things that they aren't say. He has a brilliant tactical mind, the ability to prioritize and make decisions in a snap without dithering, and the wisdom necessary to be Just Folks with the men and woman under his command when it's not crunch time, so that they'll move heaven and earth to leap to his orders when he gives them.

He forgets birthdays, but he always remembers your kid's name.